On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 4:03 AM, Constantine Pseudonymous <[email protected]> wrote: > > Rex, your killing me, I was following you well as the most logical > seeming person here, but then you started plummeting into thoughtless > absurdities....
Ha! Well, we all have our off days... > "We can say that we have information about what we are aware of...but > that is not the same as saying that awareness *is* information. > > Information is a difference that makes a difference. But it has to > make a difference *to* someone. " > > Awareness may very well be information, unless you want to make up a > piece of information which masquerades as the entity behind > information. > > You say information has to make a difference to someone... very well, > but that doesn't get you out of the problem of the enigma-identity of > this supposed someone that you think must be at the root of > information. Well, I can see how my use of the term “someone” might lead to confusion. However, I didn’t intend to imply the existence of some “supra-experiential” entity. My intended point was that information isn’t something that exists separately from, or more fundamentally than conscious experience. Information is just that which consciousness finds meaningful. > "Information is observer-relative. Observers aren’t information- > relative. " > > Don't you see your "observer" is information! Well...no. I don’t see that. Though perhaps we’re using different definitions of “information”. > Moving beyond the notion > of a observer... I would even claim that observation isn't occurring, > neither as a act or process or object or event.... there is merely the > observed. There is merely experience. > "Representation depends on > me. I don’t depend on representation. " > > Wrong. "You" do depend on representation... but pseudo-representation, > "you" depend on a pseudo-representation or a non-representational > invented pseudo-representation. Psuedo-representation? > "Representation is > something you do, not something that you are. " > > Well then what are you! Consciousness. Rex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
