On 04/09/2011, at 11:25 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi <use...@rudnyi.ru> wrote:

> On 04.09.2011 07:51 meekerdb said the following:
> 
> ...
> 
>> If that's what you're trying you're giving aid and comfort to the
>> enemy. Every religious fundamentalist in America hates materialism
>> and believes in an immaterial spirit, distinct from brain processes,
>> which is responsible for our thoughts and actions.
> 
> You know, I was raised in the USSR where the official religion was atheism 
> and materialism. The results were disastrous.
> 
> Hence you could take the existence of people in the USA who "believe in an 
> immaterial spirit, distinct from brain processes" positively. After all, they 
> are working hard and contribute to prosperity.
> 
> In any case, I do not think that the ideology should affect reasoning.

It does affect reasoning, that's the problem. A religious person usually can't 
say what evidence would make them change their religious views, because they 
are views they hold without evidence.

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