On Feb 14, 10:01 pm, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 14, 10:37 am, 1Z <peterdjo...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > On Feb 12, 2:22 pm, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > That's what being dumb is - not being able to figure out how to do > > > anything else than what you already do. > > > Then no AI is fully dumb, since all are adaptive to some extent. > > It doesn't adapt intentionally,
You know it doens't? You know we do? > it is programmed to imitate > adaptation. In a sense it's not fully dumb, but it's the trivial sense > of dumb. In the deeper sense, it literally devoid of understanding or > awareness. You know that? > > > Intelligence is the ability to > > > make sense of any given context > > > "Any"? Then no human is fully intelligent. > > Right. We have no intelligence in contexts which we can't make sense > of. We could be as dumb as computers are relative to some higher > sentience. > > > > > > and to potentially transcend it, which > > > is why it can't be programmed or simulated (but it can be imitated > > > trivially for specific functions). If it weren't that way we would not > > > be having this discussion. > > > That we are having this discussion does not prove we > > are infinitely adaptable, as your definition "intelligent" requires. > > We're not infinitely adaptable nor even is intelligence infinitely > adaptable, So you didn;t mean "any"? > but sense is. Even non-sense is a kind of sense. Ermm... >That we > are having this discussion proves only that we have the potential to > transcend our own programming. AIs can transcend their programming by following their programming-transcending programming. > Machines don't gather together while we > aren't watching and try to improve their programming. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.