On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com>wrote:
> So you agree that it is impossible to have something come from nothing. > That depends on what you mean by "nothing". 1) Lack of matter, a vacuum. 2) Lack of matter and energy 3) Lack of matter and energy and space 4) Lack of matter and energy and space and time. 5) Lack of even the potential to produce something. Science has valuable things to say about how something can come from nothing in all senses of the word "nothing" except for #5, and nobody else can say anything about that either, not even God, so that topic is a big bore. This is all explained in much greater detail in the book, WHICH YOU HAVE NOT READ. > I think of them as incredibly shallow questions. > So you think explaining how from a few simple rules matter energy time and space turned into something while other things did not is not only shallow but incredibly shallow. The only logical conclusion I can form from that is that somebody who really believes that is a incredibly shallow person. > it's complete hype to claim that the universe comes from nothing. It's a > slogan to sell books. > I don't mind ignorance in general but there is a form of aggressive ignorance I find distasteful, somebody who feels they don't need to know all that highfalutin book learning, somebody so ignorant they don't know they're ignorant, somebody who feels their comments on a well respected physicist's book are worth sharing with others even though THEY HAVE NOT READ THE BOOK. > > I get the gist. > BULLSHIT! Anybody who says these are "incredibly shallow questions" is a fool. Full stop. > > I only point out as a fact that the universe could not come from > something. I see, so the universe can't come from nothing and now it can't come from something either, so obviously the universe does not exist and never has. Isn't philosophy wonderful. > http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=the-consolation-of-p... > > http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/04/has-physics-mad... > > >There is nothing surprising in either of these articles. > I would bet money you haven't read either one and at most skimmed them for 20 seconds; reading the actual book is of course out of the question, that would take away too much time contemplating your navel. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
