On May 7, 9:42 am, Pierz <pier...@gmail.com> wrote: > Krauss's argument may satisfy the cosmologist's desire to see the cause of > the universe reduced to something extremely simple, but it does not satisfy > the wondering child or philosopher who is thunderstruck by the strangeness of > there being any existence at all, however simple or rudimentary its origins. > It's wrong to say such a child or philosopher is caught in a pointless mind > loop trying asking how something that does not even have the potential to > produce anything can, nevertheless, produce something. Of course that is > absurd. The question in my mind as a wondering child was never 'How did the > nothing that must have come before the universe produce the universe?' It was > my mind chasing the chain of causation of things and realizing that, whatever > that chain looked like, I could never trace it all the way back to absolute > nothing - so why this mysterious beingness? The fact is it's beyond reason.
Yes, it is beyond reason, but it is not beyond sense. If we model the cosmos with sense as the ground of being instead of absolute nothing, then neither physics or mathematics are mysterious. They are lowest common denominator experiences. The longest lasting, most general ways to make sense. Call it a gift or a miracle and you're as close to it as anything. God is no answer, mind you - he's just another spurious bottom turtle. God, laws of quantum mechanics: it's just different attempts to stop the rot of infinite regress, hammer in a wedge somewhere and say "Because". Why do the law of quantum physics exist? Because. Why does God, the UD, the Buddhist void exist? Because. Exactly. My approach is instead of because, I would answer, because we are human beings right now and that is part of how it seems to human beings who live here and now. 'why do we think that quantum physics exist?' because we have built instruments that consistently confirm our theories that it exists. 'why do people think that God, the UD, the Buddhist void exist'? because they are able to make sense of their experience as human beings, mathematicians, religious disciples, etc that way. It is how our minds feel themselves in the reflection or shadow they cast as their life/world/universe. Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
