On 5/12/2012 10:19 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 9:20 AM, scerir <sce...@libero.it
<mailto:sce...@libero.it>> wrote:
>A few quotes below to dualism from Max Velmans.
>Evgenii
H. Kragh ("Dirac: a Scientific Biography", Cambridge U.P., 1990)
reports
a 1927 discussion between Dirac, Heisenberg and Born, about what
actually gives rise to the so called "collapse" (reduction of
waves packet).
Dirac said that it is 'Nature' that makes the choice (of measurement
outcome).
Born agreed. Heisenberg however maintained that, behind the collapse,
and the choice of which 'branch' the wavefunction would be
followed, there
was "the free-will of the human observer".
Leibniz, IMO, would also claim that Nature makes the choice, but that
his collection of monads perceive (based on their consciousness) what
is the best possible wave function choice to obtain the best possible
universe. What Leibniz apparently leaves out of his philosophy is that
human free-will consciousness can make the world imperfect, perhaps
even suicidal. String theory seems consistent with Leibniz in that the
discrete balls of compactified dimensions have some monad properties,
which is these days what I preach. And I wonder if this could be
consistent with COMP, since it's all theological. Richard
Hi Richard,
We can strip out all the religiosity from Leibniz' ideas.
Leibniz' monads where perseptions themselves, not entities that
where conscious and perceived things. What we have previously discussed
as "Observer Moments" are a better analogy to what Leibniz had in mind.
He did postulate that God arranged them such that their content was
always synchronized; this is the "pre-established harmony" (PEH)
concept. I think that Leibniz' mistake was to assume that there exists
an "absolute" observer" with a "view from nowhere" that defined an
objective 3-p. There are strong mathematical inconsistencies with this
idea.
For one thing, a PEH requires the discovery and application of a
solution to an infinite SAT complexity problem, not the mere existence
of one.
--
Onward!
Stephen
"Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed."
~ Francis Bacon
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