On May 15, 5:29 am, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > On 15 May 2012, at 04:48, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > On May 14, 2:11 pm, R AM <ramra...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'm saying that decision making, learning, and reinforcement are > >> possible > >> in a deterministic world, and you are not denying it. I guess our > >> points of > >> view are orthogonal. > > > I am denying that meaningful decisions, learning, or reinforcement are > > possible in a deterministic world. > > But a deterministic world, if rich enough to add and multiply, and > thus to contain universal internal observers, leads already to > indeterminist first person realities (even without comp, although it > is simpler to use comp to justify this).
If a wave washes one pile of sand onto another, thereby 'adding' them together, why does that generate universal internal observers? Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.