On May 15, 5:29 am, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
> On 15 May 2012, at 04:48, Craig Weinberg wrote:
>
> > On May 14, 2:11 pm, R AM <ramra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I'm saying that decision making, learning, and reinforcement are
> >> possible
> >> in a deterministic world, and you are not denying it. I guess our
> >> points of
> >> view are orthogonal.
>
> > I am denying that meaningful decisions, learning, or reinforcement are
> > possible in a deterministic world.
>
> But a deterministic world, if rich enough to add and multiply, and
> thus to contain universal internal observers,  leads already to
> indeterminist first person realities (even without comp, although it
> is simpler to use comp to justify this).

If a wave washes one pile of sand onto another, thereby 'adding' them
together, why does that generate universal internal observers?

Craig

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