Bruno:

Doesn't it emerge in this respect "WHAT truth?" or rather
"WHOSE truth?" is there an accepted authority to verify an "absolute" truth
judgeable from a different belief system?

JohnM




On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 4:50 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:

>
> On 23 Jun 2012, at 09:47, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
>
> On 22.06.2012 08:03 Stephen P. King said the following:
>>
>>> On 6/22/2012 1:50 AM, Brian Tenneson wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have many questions.
>>>>
>>>> One is "what if truth were malleable?" --
>>>>
>>> HI Brian,
>>>
>>> If it was malleable, how would we detect the modifications? If our
>>> "standards" of truth varied, how could we tell? This reminds me of
>>> the debate between Leibniz and Newton regarding the notion of
>>> absolute space.
>>>
>>>
>> If one assumes the correspondence theory of truth, then the question
>> would be if a reality were malleable.
>>
>
>
>
> Right. Which leads to the question; what does Brian mean by "truth is
> malleable"?
>
> Would this entail that arithmetical truth is malleable? What would it mean
> that the truth of "17 is prime" is malleable. It looks like we need a more
> solid truth than arithmetic in which we can make sense of the malleability
> of the truth in arithmetic, but I cannot see anything more solid than
> elementary arithmetic.
>
> Some truth can be malleable in some operational sense, but this will be
> only metaphorical. For example the "truth" that cannabis is far more safe
> than alcohol, appears to be quite malleable, but this is just because
> special interest exploits the lack of education in logic. People driven by
> power are used to mistreat truth, but it is just errors or lies. I guess
> Brian's question is more metaphysical, but then in which non malleable
> context can we make sense of metaphysically malleable truth? Perhaps Brian
> should elaborate on what he means by "truth is malleable"? It seems to me
> that such an idea is similar to complete relativism, which defeats itself
> by not allowing that very idea to be relativized.
>
>
> Bruno
>
>
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