On Sep 5, 2012, at 7:45 AM, "Roger Clough" <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:
Hi Jason Resch
What you call a virtual world, Kant and Leibniz call the phenomenal
world.
Where did I use the term virtual world?
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/5/2012
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that everything could function."
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From: Jason Resch
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Time: 2012-09-04, 21:44:02
Subject: Re: Why a bacterium has more intelligence than a computer
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Craig Weinberg
<whatsons...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 4, 2012 4:06:06 PM UTC-4, Jason wrote:
牋� The point that I am making is that our brain seems to be
continuously generating a virtual reality model of the world that in
cludes our body and what we are conscious of is that model.
I like this description of a brain: that of a dreaming / reality
creating machine.
What is it the brain creating this dream/reality out of? Non-
reality? Intangible mathematical essences?
You may be misinterpreting what I mean.� The reality is created in t
he sense of the experience of reality.� Each person on earth in some
sense has their own conception of the world (reality) even though t
here is only one real planet.� I don't mean to suggest that the brai
n exists disembodied.
�
The problem with representational qualia is that in order to
represent something, there has to be something there to begin with
to represent.
When we dream, we have experiences and qualia without the
represented thing have any existence outside the mind.� Blind people
can dream in color (if they had sight at some point in their lives)
.� Where does the color of red come from in a blind person's dream?
�
Why would the brain need to represent the data that it already has
to itself in some fictional layer of abstraction? Why convert the
quantitative data of the universe into made up qualities and then
hide that conversion process from itself?
�
�
Does a "machine" made up of gears, springs and levers do this? Could
one made of diodes and transistors do it? Maybe...
No one has shown me a cogent argument that they could not.
They question isn't why they could, it is why they would.
We will make these machines and transfer our minds on to them for
the same reason we transfer our photographs off the digital camera
that took them.
�
What possible function would be served by a cuckoo clock having an
experience of being a flying turnip?
We won't transfer our minds to cuckoo clocks (maybe you will to
prove me wrong ;-) ) but to machines that are more resilient,
efficient, faster, and more reliable.
Jason
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