Hi Craig Weinberg But the universe IS created.
I believe that Satan wrote the Koran, but not the Bible, for the Bible asks us to love and forgive each other. Writing that would burn the Devil's fingers. So the koran seems to omit the part about loving and forgiving each other. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 9/11/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-11, 08:52:16 Subject: Re: Re: What must the perceiver be like? Hi Roger, On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 8:36:47 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote: Hi Craig Weinberg The Creator is not created. So no problem. Why not just say The Universe is not created. So no problem? What does the idea of an uncreated Creator add that has any explanatory power? Would the idea of a Creator seem obvious if the Bible didn't exist? What if you found out that the Bible was actually written by people's demons who mixed truth with lies over centuries to cause confusion, oppression, and cruelty. If I were Satan, why wouldn't I tell people that I am God and make them write a book which causes fear, superstition, and misery (even if the cost is that it has some very good side effects as well)? Not to suggest that you doubt your faith, but logically, the idea of a Bible seems contrary to the purposes of a Creator who endows his creations with direct capacities to make sense of his creation (including themselves). Does he want us to know he exists or doesn't he? If so, why write a bunch of crazy ambiguous scriptures that vary from place to place? If not, why allow such blasphemous confusions to thrive? Craig -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/s2L3GTGAPpgJ. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.