Hi Craig Weinberg You can see from all of the flack I get here that being a believer, since you believe in something seemingly to be nonsense (especially to the scientific mind), those that think rightly have the obligation to try to save you from this insanity. No surprises there. It certainly sounds nutty.
Without trying to compare myself with Jesus or the jews, or to make myself seem better than anybody, this is to be expected. That's called persecution, or sacrifice. It greatly pleases God. In return you will receive the gifts of the spirit, among which are faith, hope and love. Faith, hope and love all must come from God. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 9/20/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-19, 22:09:32 Subject: Re: the "nothing but" fallacy. On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:48:33 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: On 9/19/2012 4:34 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:54:25 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: On 9/19/2012 3:12 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:20:00 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: On 9/19/2012 2:11 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:27:13 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote: Hi Richard Ruquist Obeying the commandments will not get you into heaven, only believing in Christ's sacrifice for us will do that. What kind of a sacrifice is that? "I'm going to do you the biggest favor you can imagine, but if you don't believe in it, then my favor is worthless and makes anything good that you have ever done in your life a complete waste of time". If I were Satan, I would write the Bible exactly as it is, full of horrific promises and threats that can be interpreted in many ways. It's pretty much like dropping candy colored hand grenades onto a school playground. The grenades would say "if anyone tries to take this away from you, then they deserve whatever happens to them". But I'm curious; as a member of the EVERYTHING-list, don't you believe that there's a world where the Bible is essentially accurate (modulo direct contradictions)? I don't know about accurate, but there are certainly phenomenological states where the Bible can seem powerfully important, i.e. super-significant - for good or evil. But those are phenomenological states in this world, and apparently you think the qualifier "seem" means "false" in this world. I'm asking about all those infinitely many other worlds? The phenomenological states and the sense that they make of each other are the only worlds that there are. Seeming is not false, rather truth is nothing but mutually overlapping seeming among more and more worlds. Seeming to whom?...more and more Craigs? In this case, there seems to me to be much more overlapping seeming outside of the Bible than inside of it. So is this a purely personal seeming to you? Polls show it's a minority seeming in the U.S. Yes. It seems to me personally that the Bible refers primarily to figurative phenomenological experiences rather than literal public realism. Craig Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/byijBItDcHYJ. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.