Hi Jason Resch
Love means to love somebody else, other than yourself.
To do that, you must trust that person.
You will partly submit your will to them,
or at least not dominate them. You will
want to give things to that person.
So love, trusting, submission and giving are
all tangled together somewhere deep in your psyche.
You cannot feel one without the others.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/20/2012
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
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From: Jason Resch
Receiver: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Time: 2012-09-19, 20:41:03
Subject: Re: the "nothing but" fallacy.
On Sep 19, 2012, at 4:19 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/19/2012 2:11 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:27:13 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote:
Hi Richard Ruquist
Obeying the commandments will not get you into heaven,
only believing in Christ's sacrifice for us will do that.
What kind of a sacrifice is that? "I'm going to do you the biggest favor you
can imagine, but if you don't believe in it, then my favor is worthless and
makes anything good that you have ever done in your life a complete waste of
time".
If I were Satan, I would write the Bible exactly as it is, full of horrific
promises and threats that can be interpreted in many ways. It's pretty much
like dropping candy colored hand grenades onto a school playground. The
grenades would say "if anyone tries to take this away from you, then they
deserve whatever happens to them".
But I'm curious; as a member of the EVERYTHING-list, don't you believe that
there's a world where the Bible is essentially accurate (modulo direct
contradictions)?
Well no one can hold on to a soul forever, at all times there is a chance you
will escape their grip and find yourself elsewhere.
Also, the concept of a super intelligent entity torturing someone may be almost
contradictory, for they may realize the identity of all minds, and therefore
they would be torturing themselves.
Self contradictions aside, all religions are true with some relative
probability. That is to say, in this world, some fractions of the explanations
for it's existence is because a Christian god created it, in another fraction
it is because brahma (a Hindu god) is dreaming it, and so on.
Jason
Brent
"Our Bible reveals to us the character of our god with minute and remorseless
exactness... It is perhaps the most damnatory biography that exists in print
anywhere. It makes Nero an angel of light and leading by contrast"
--- Mark Twain
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