Hi Roger,

Is this post related the the e-mail thread?  If so I am missing how.  Could
you clarify?

Thanks,

Jason

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:

> Hi Jason Resch
>
> Love means to love somebody else, other than yourself.
> To do that, you must trust that person.
> You will partly submit your will to them,
> or at least not dominate them.   You will
> want to give things to that person.
> So love, trusting, submission and giving are
> all tangled together somewhere deep in your psyche.
> You cannot feel one without the others.
>
>
> Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
> 9/20/2012
> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen
>
>
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> From: Jason Resch
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> Time: 2012-09-19, 20:41:03
> Subject: Re: the "nothing but" fallacy.
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 19, 2012, at 4:19 PM, meekerdb  wrote:
>
>
> On 9/19/2012 2:11 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:27:13 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote:
> Hi Richard Ruquist
>
> Obeying the commandments will not get you into heaven,
> only believing in Christ's sacrifice for us will do that.
>
>
> What kind of a sacrifice is that? "I'm going to do you the biggest favor
> you can imagine, but if you don't believe in it, then my favor is worthless
> and makes anything good that you have ever done in your life a complete
> waste of time".
>
> If I were Satan, I would write the Bible exactly as it is, full of
> horrific promises and threats that can be interpreted in many ways. It's
> pretty much like dropping candy colored hand grenades onto a school
> playground. The grenades would say "if anyone tries to take this away from
> you, then they deserve whatever happens to them".
>
>
> But I'm curious; as a member of the EVERYTHING-list, don't you believe
> that there's a world where the Bible is essentially accurate (modulo direct
> contradictions)?
>
>
> Well no one can hold on to a soul forever, at all times there is a chance
> you will escape their grip and find yourself elsewhere.
>
>
> Also, the concept of a super intelligent entity torturing someone may be
> almost contradictory, for they may realize the identity of all minds, and
> therefore they would be torturing themselves.
>
>
> Self contradictions aside, all religions are true with some relative
> probability.  That is to say, in this world, some fractions of the
> explanations for it's existence is because a Christian god created it, in
> another fraction it is because brahma (a Hindu god) is dreaming it, and so
> on.
>
>
> Jason
>
>
>
>
> Brent
> "Our Bible reveals to us the character of our god with minute and
> remorseless exactness... It is perhaps the most damnatory biography that
> exists in print anywhere. It makes Nero an angel of light and leading by
> contrast"
>          --- Mark Twain
>
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