Hi Stephen P. King 

If by "exist" I mean physically exi,sts
and by "lives" I mean nonphysically exists,
Then

Computers exist.
Computer programs live.



Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/21/2012 
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen


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From: Stephen P. King 
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Time: 2012-09-20, 20:50:22
Subject: Re: Numbers in Space


On 9/20/2012 11:02 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
> Here's another reductio ad absurdum illustration of comp.
>
> If the version of comp we are discussing here is independent of 
> physics, then shouldn't it be possible for us to program universal 
> machines using only empty space? Length can be quantified, so why 
> can't we just use millimeters or Planck lengths as the basis for our 
> enumeration, addition, and multiplication and directly program from 
> our mind to space?
>
> Of course, it would be hard to know where it was because we would be 
> constantly flying away from a space that was anchored to an absolute 
> position independent of Earth, the solar system, Milky Way, etc, but 
> that shouldn't matter anyhow since whatever method we use to directly 
> program in empty space with our minds should also give us access to 
> the results of the computations.
>
> What do you think? Just as wafers of silicon glass could in theory be 
> functionally identical to a living brain, wouldn't it be equally 
> prejudiced to say that empty space isn't good enough to host the 
> computations of silicon?
>
>
> Craig

Hey Craig,

     What do you think physical computers actually are? "universal 
machines using only empty space". But Nature hates a vacuum...

-- 
Onward!

Stephen

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