Hi  Roger Clough,

Hi meekerdb

Only you can know if you actually have intelligence,
although you can appear to have intelligence (as if).
You can be tested for it.

Thus comp is not different from us, or at least it has the same
limitations.

Exactly. And above the level of Löbianity, or with the induction axioms, I mean at a rather precise technical level, the machine is or can be aware of such limitations.

Bruno





Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
10/9/2012
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen


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Subject: Re: Zombieopolis Thought Experiment


On 10/8/2012 8:42 AM, John Clark wrote:
2) Intelligent behavior is NOT associated with subjective experience, in which case there is no reason for Evolution to produce consciousness and I have no explanation for why I am here, and I have reason to believe that I am the only conscious being in the universe.

There's a third possibility: Intelligent behavior is sometimes associated with subjective experience and sometimes not. Evolution may have produced consciousness as a spandrel, an accident of the particular developmental path that evolution happened upon. Or it may be that consciousness is necessarily associated with only certain kinds of intelligent behavior, e.g. those related to language.

Bretn

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