Hi guys, All life, especially if there is any decision to be made with multiple choices, must have consciousness to whatever extent to make the best choice. Even if it is instinctual it must know which instinct to carry out.
In any encounter, one must choose flight or fight (or eat or mate with). For fight or flight among higher animals, the animal in an encounter has to ask itself, if only visually: 1. Is it dangerous ? 2. Is it bigger than I am ? 3. Can it run faster than I can ? Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 10/11/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-10-10, 12:18:31 Subject: Re: Zombieopolis Thought Experiment On 09 Oct 2012, at 19:07, meekerdb wrote: On 10/9/2012 7:17 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 08 Oct 2012, at 19:35, meekerdb wrote: On 10/8/2012 8:42 AM, John Clark wrote: 2) Intelligent behavior is NOT associated with subjective experience, in which case there is no reason for Evolution to produce consciousness and I have no explanation for why I am here, and I have reason to believe that I am the only conscious being in the universe. There's a third possibility: Intelligent behavior is sometimes associated with subjective experience and sometimes not. Evolution may have produced consciousness as a spandrel, an accident of the particular developmental path that evolution happened upon. Or it may be that consciousness is necessarily associated with only certain kinds of intelligent behavior, e.g. those related to language. Consciousness is when you bet in your consistency, or in a reality, to help yourself. Consciousness precedes language, but follows perception and sensation. It unifies the interpretation of the senses, making the illusion possible. What illusion? The illusion of self? The illusion possible in all consciousness content, except 'being conscious here and now' itself. Careful: illusion can be true, sometimes. I use "illusion" like we use "number" even for 0 and 1, despite "number" meant 'numerous'. Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
