On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:37:33 PM UTC-4, yanniru wrote:
>
> The why is that your conception of space is unscientific.
> You sound like a New Ager.
>
Also, not to pick a fight or to diminish the work that you are doing (which
I respect), but your conception of space is:
.
"24 space-like dimensions of which all but 6 Space Dimensions have
compactified into two effectively zero-volume matrices of wires of
thickness near the Planck scale and Calabi-Yau fourfolds of 1000 Planck
scales at their junctions."
What do you think that people of Earth would say about that theory, say,
any time before 1970?
Compare that with my conception of space, which is that it is a text which
is encoded and decoded through the coordinated experiences of matter
itself, and that rather than telepathic memory in familiarized particles,
quantum entanglement is evidence that space is in fact a 0 dimensional
semiotic facade.
Which sounds more New Agey to you? What is a "space-like dimension"? A
semi-measurable, semi-nothing? What happens if you try thinking of it my
way, just for an hour or so, and see what happens? I have already thought
of it your way, and it just leads right back to a classical world connected
mathematically to a quantum never never land, but not to the color red or
the feeling of an itch. What universe are we talking about if we are not
the ones living there?
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Craig Weinberg
> <whats...@gmail.com<javascript:>>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 7:46:17 PM UTC-4, yanniru wrote:
> >>
> >> I disagree with everything you suggest.
> >
> >
> > You are welcome to disagree, but without knowing why, I can only assume
> that
> > you don't really have an argument against my view. The bottom line is
> that
> > without some theory which gets us from matter to *us right here* it
> really
> > is more of in interesting curiosity. It may turn out to be incredibly
> > useful/important/profitable from an engineering and technology
> standpoint,
> > but it really doesn't answer the timeless questions of who we are and
> what
> > awareness is. My model does that.
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 3:52:30 PM UTC-4, yanniru wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Craig,
> >> >> Neurons are made in accordance with physical laws.
> >> >>
> >> >> You are confusing string theory with comp which apparently makes
> >> >> everything.
> >> >>
> >> >> String theory monads are made in the big bang by having the excess
> >> >> dimensions of the space of string theory curl up into 1000 planck
> >> >> diameter particles that precipitate out of 3-D space. In fact
> they're
> >> >> curling up is what allows 3-D space to inflate. As space is still
> >> >> expanding, monads are apparently still being made.
> >> >>
> >> >> The monads exist in what would be commonly called a supernatural
> realm.
> >> >> They solve the hard problems of consciousness. Neurons do not. That
> is
> >> >> why they are needed. But the fact is that according to string
> theory,
> >> >> they (the monads) exist.
> >> >>
> >> >> You can quibble with string theory if you like. In my models that
> >> >> extend string theory to consciousness, string theory is assumed to
> be
> >> >> correct, even if my modelling is incorrect.
> >> >> All I claim is that my model is one possibility among many that
> >> >> probably can never be proven.
> >> >> Richard
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > All that I suggest is that string theory and especially string monads
> >> > only
> >> > really address the hard problem if they are understood as figurative
> >> > strings
> >> > rather than literal structures. The dimensions would have to be
> >> > qualitative
> >> > experiential dimensions (like emotion, meaning, etc.) rather than
> >> > literally
> >> > 'different kinds of space'.
> >> >
> >> > In my view the whole notion of space as a plenum is a non-starter.
> You
> >> > can
> >> > look at it that way and perhaps it will work eventually, but it is
> the
> >> > loooong way around - like trying to guess what song is playing by
> >> > analyzing
> >> > a database of the expressions on the faces of people listening to
> that
> >> > song.
> >> >
> >> > I say that space is a dimensionless void between phenomena which do
> have
> >> > qualities that can be expressed as partly quantifiable with
> dimension.
> >> > We
> >> > are in the big bang, as we always have been, only it is banging
> within,
> >> > diffracting itself in many different ways, both figuratively and
> >> > literally
> >> > at the same time.
> >> >
> >> > Craig
> >> >
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