Stathis:

IMO you left out one difference in equating computer and human: the
programmed comp. cannot exceed its hardwre - given content while
(SOMEHOW???) a human mind receives additional information from parts
'unknown' (see the steps forward in cultural history of the sciences?) -
accordingly a 'programmed' human may have resources beyond it's given
"hardware" content.

John M

On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Intentionally lying, defying it's programming, committing murder would
> all
> > be good indicators. Generally when an error is blamed on the computer
> itself
> > rather than the programming, that would be a good sign.
>
> A computer cannot defy its programming but nothing whatsoever can defy
> its programming. What you do when you program a computer, at the basic
> level, is put its hardware in a particular configuration. The hardware
> can then only move into future physical states consistent with that
> configuration. "Defying its programming" would mean doing something
> *not* consistent with its initial state and the laws of physics.
> That's not possible for  - and you have explicitly agreed with this,
> saying I misunderstood you when I claimed otherwise - either a
> computer or a human.
>
>
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