Hi Bruno Marchal  

A life field is similar to Sheldrake's morphisms,
Leibniz's substances or L's monads or L's souls.

The physical is that which is extended in space. 
Dreams, like mind or ideas, are not extended in space,  so not physical. 

The rest I agree with you on.  


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1/11/2013  
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On 10 Jan 2013, at 13:07, Roger Clough wrote: 

> Hi Bruno Marchal 
> 
> Sheldrake's morphisms might be thought of as life fields. 

What is that supposed to explain? 


> 
> But I don't think fields themselves are physical, rather they are 
> monadic, descriptions of physical things. 

I am not sure that I understand what you mean by physical. 

Keep in mind that in the comp theory, the physical is epistemological.  
(Unless there is a flaw in UDA, etc.) 

The physical is the content of shared dreams, shared between us with  
us = all the L?ian entities (machines and divinities (non machines,  
oracles, etc.)). 

We belong to a continuum of matrices, consistent with the overall  
arithmetical truth (which appears to be something quite transcendental  
with comp). 

This might be false, and my point is only that this is a testable  
consequence of comp (and QM rather succeeds well the test up to now). 

Then I illustrate that the computationalist "big picture" is closer to  
Plato (and many others, perhaps Descartes, Kant and Leibniz) than to  
naturalism, physicalism, or any (weak) materialist doctrine which  
reifies matter. 

Bruno 

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> 
> On 09 Jan 2013, at 12:07, Roger Clough wrote: 
> 
>> Hi meekerdb 
>> 
>> Sheldrake's morphisms would be what John Clark or bruno theorized as 
>> God. 
> 
> I don't think so. I have never understood what Sheldrake's morphism 
> are, but they seem physical, from what I can understand. 
> God is not physical, and by definition, the physical needs God, or 
> truth, to exist or make sense. 
> 
> Bruno 
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 
>> 1/9/2013 
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>> 
>> On 1/8/2013 9:14 AM, John Clark wrote: 
>> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>>> GOD means the reality in which you believe. 
>> 
>> Friends, are you tired of your old job, it's time to change your 
>> occupation and make big bucks, amaze your friends, be a hit at 
>> parties and become a professional pundit on cable news shows! You 
>> too can become a liberal theologian by using the patented John Clark 
>> method and it only takes 4 simple steps! 
>> 
>> 
>> STEP 1) Find something that everybody believes exists, it doesn't 
>> matter what it is. 
>> 
>> STEP 2) Define the word "God" as meaning that thing whatever it may 
>> be. 
>> 
>> STEP 3) Declare that you have proven the existence of God. 
>> 
>> STEP 4) There is no step 4 because step 3 leads nowhere. 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> Didn't Tillich already copyright that method, John? 
>> 
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