On 18 Jan 2013, at 23:37, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/18/2013 10:23 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 17 Jan 2013, at 19:14, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1/17/2013 9:14 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Coming back to hemp should be the good idea. Oil and wood have
replaced Hemp (for textile, fuel, paper and medication) just from
lies and greed. The possible global warming might just be another
consequences on the lies on cannabis, drugs etc. Hemp was the
oil, before oil. It is the plant that the human have the most
cultivated, with maize and wheat, since a very long time. The
idea that it is something dangerous is a total complete recent
construct, and has only been a Trojan horse for bandits (probably
the one losing the job after the end of alcohol prohibition) to
get power.
Hi,
Any idea how much land would be required to grow sufficient hemp
to supply the millions of barrels that our civilization requires?
How much fertilizer? How much labor? Have you seem the quantity of
energy that is required to turn corn into fuel. for example? The
problem is that hemp and other biomass fuel idea are simply too
expensive in terms of energy and man hours to replace petrofuels. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_content_of_biofuel
Oh! If wiki says so ...
Note that I did not say that only hemp is needed, nor did I condemn
entirely oil and coke. I am a realist. But Ford did the calculus,
and for a very long time, if hemp would have just be continued to
be used, their would have been a drastic harm reduction, possibly
ecological.
There certainly would have been a drastic reduction in
industrialization. Ford also considered making car bodies out of
soybeans, but that didn't work out either.
"Either?" It did work well with hemp:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54vD_cPCQM8
And there would have been no drastic reduction of industrialization,
as being pro-hemp does not entail being oil prohibitionist. It is not
a matter of going to one dogma to another, but of using common sense
and practicing harm reduction.
Between possibly bad and certainly worst, we have to choose the
possibly bad, but we know that unscrupulous special interest made
the decisions, and that is the problem.
I don't see anything 'unscrupulous' about deciding to exploit the
energy embodied in coal and oil.
What was unscrupulous was the lies on Hemp to make it impossible to
let it compete with coal and oil, and forest.
It has been a major factor in creating the modern world. It has
created some problems as side effects, but ones that can be solved.
We can hope, but as I said once, I don't really believe we get sanity
back in politics without making clear and loud that everything said
publicly about hemp since more than seventy years was purposeful lies
and brainwashing. Not just on industrial use, but mainly on its use in
medication and as a much more safe than alcohol recreative product.
The domain of health product should never be nationalized, like the
american did. It was a mystery of me, unexplained by the fairy tale
attraction, how and why human, especially Americans who we leading the
world toward more liberty, can get so much irrational, on a so
important matter. After beginning to accept that Jack Herer was right
on the discovery that cannabis can cure cancer on muse, purposefully
hidden by Bush-father, I get the point. They have put a lot of money
and energy in the lies.
Bruno
Brent
Well the real problem is that we tolerate that and that most people
buy the media talk without thinking, the real problem is the "boss
is right" routine implemented in many mammals. Our brain evolves
less quickly that our ideas and technology.
Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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