OK, careless connotation. JM On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Hi John Mikes > > Luther did not motivate anybody to kill jews. > > > > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > *From:* John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> > *Receiver:* everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> > *Time:* 2013-01-26, 16:24:49 > *Subject:* Re: Martin Luther on Rationality > > Brent: > you do beware of the "leader" - "follower" position. If a leader actively > also empowers the follower then (s)he may be responsible for anything that > happens in such empoweredness. Luther conscience-wise, Hitler > materially/organizationally empowered the followers. The 'leader' of the > KKK, or the NRA is responsible for crimes committed in their empowerment.� > The 'judge' is not the killer of the executed criminal, but responsible > for the killing - although many systems give the judge impunity for > mistakes. How about wars? > > I take exception to 'poverty' not being a forced oppression: in many > systems the 'upper class' rich people deprive the 'lower class' paupers of > means to elevate economically, although cute scientists explain such > development as a rightful evolution in society. They lie.� > When Boehner urges tax-cuts for the super-rich and deep cuts in benefits > for poor people (and succeeds) that is willful oppression. He personally > may not push a slum-kid into hunger - or crime, but IS responsible > nonetheless.� > I was an underdog under both Nazis and Commis, I know what it feels to be > forcibly oppressed. NG!� > > JohnM > > On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:56 AM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > >> On 1/26/2013 3:25 AM, Roger Clough wrote: >> >> 1. Luther hated jews, but he had nothing to do with爐he extermination of >> the jews. >> >> >> He didn't directly kill any, he just motivated the killing.� But then the >> same is true of Hitler. >> >> Brent >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> � >> � >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > *DreamMail* - Your mistake not to try it once, but my mistake for your > leaving off. use again www.dreammail.org > <%--DreamMail_AD_END--> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.