On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Stephen P. King <stephe...@charter.net>wrote:
> On 2/19/2013 8:08 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Stephen P. King <stephe...@charter.net>wrote: > >> On 2/19/2013 12:26 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:58 AM, Richard Ruquist <yann...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> On 2/18/2013 11:47 AM, Terren Suydam wrote: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> If God is arithmetical truth, then what if anything is there to be >>> said >>> >> about its "character"? I know from a formal perspective the answer is >>> >> nothing, because nothing formal can be said about truth. >>> >> >>> >> This is more of an informal question, and comes out of my innate >>> desire to >>> >> anthropomorphize. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Why would you suppose that your desire to anthropomorphize is anything >>> >> other than wishful thinking? Do you also have a desire to >>> anthropormorphize >>> >> the periodic table? the solar system? the infinitesimal calculus? >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > Within comp, there are many minds that have infinite computations >>> resources >>> > at their disposal. They can evolve forever, and approach infinite >>> > intelligence and knowledge. They all explore the same mathematical >>> truth >>> > and thus having the same data (that of mathematical truth they explore) >>> > together with near infinite intelligence, they are almost never wrong >>> on any >>> > question or matter. Thus, despite possibly different origins, they >>> are all >>> > of a like mind, opinion, and possibly character. The number of >>> fundamental >>> > questions on which these super intelligence disagree goes towards zero >>> as >>> > their intelligence goes towards infinity. >>> >>> If our universe is holographic, the computational resources are >>> limited to the Lloyd Limit of 10^120 bits, with a maximum possible >>> 10^122 bits >>> Ref: http://arxiv.org/ftp/astro-ph/papers/0602/0602420.pdf >>> >>> >> I was not proposing that our universe could support infinite >> computational resources, but that some other universes might, and >> intelligent beings/civilizations in those universes are unbounded. >> >> Jason >> -- >> >> Hi Jason, >> >> Would you care to speculate whether or not those demi-gods (in other >> universes that have access to infinite resources) would have Platonist >> theories of mathematics? >> >> > > Any question to me of the form "Do I think the demi-gods will believe X", > boils down to "Do I think X is correct?". I think you know where I stand > on Platonist theories of mathematics. Whether or not the demi-gods also > believe it mostly depends on whether its correct or if it has more credence > than the other alternatives. > > Jason > > > Hi Jason, > > It seems to me that the demi-gods would not be motivated to have > Platonist-like ontologies. As I see things, only we of finite resources > concoct such Platonist theories to give ourselves the illusion of > superpowers to explain away the mysterious fact that we can understand > mathematics. I have yet to see a neo-Platonist explain without hand-waving > how it is that a physical brain can access knowledge from Platonia. > I made such a proposal about 2 months ago in a thread titled "How mathematical truth might enter our universe". You posted in the thread but never directly to my original post on the matter. Feel free to re-ignite that thread if you would like to discuss this topic further. Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
