On 29 Mar 2013, at 13:44, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Friday, March 29, 2013 5:41:19 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 28 Mar 2013, at 18:59, meekerdb wrote:
> On 3/28/2013 7:52 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>> Intelligence, in my opinion is rather easy too. It is a question of
>> "abstract thermodynamic", intelligence is when you get enough heat
>> while young, something like that. It is close to courage, and it is
>> what make competence possible.
>
> ??
>
>>
>> Competence is the most difficult, as they are distributed on
>> transfinite lattice of incomparable degrees. Some can ask for
>> necessary long work, and can have negative feedback on
intelligence.
>
> That sounds like a quibble. Intelligence is usually just thought of
> as the the ability to learn competence over a very general domain.
Intelligence is an ability to learn and become competent, but more
importantly to understand and discern. Intelligence is the cognitive-
level modality of sensitivity.
"intelligence (n.)
late 14c., "faculty of understanding," from Old French
intelligence (12c.), from Latin intelligentia, intellegentia
"understanding, power of discerning; art, skill, taste," from
intelligentem (nominative intelligens) "discerning," present
participle of intelligere "to understand, comprehend," from inter-
"between" (see inter-) + legere "choose, pick out, read" "
OK.
That's why I think that intelligence is simple, almost a mental
attitude, more akin to courage and humility, than anything else.
Competence asks for gift or work, and can often lead to the feeling
that we are more intelligent than others, which is the first basic
symptom of stupidity.
I don't know that feeling more intelligent than others means you are
stupid, maybe just vain. If taken literally, how could anyone become
more intelligent than anyone else if as soon as they are intelligent
enough to realize it, that made them stupid?
Because they will never realize that (unless they confuse intelligence
and competence, but then it is just a minor vocabulary issue). In case
they realize that they are really intelligent (in the large sense
exposed here), then they become stupid, indeed.
You have something similar with the mystical illumination. If someone
tell you "I have seen God", you can be pretty sure he did not. Same
with genuine "happiness": it goes without saying, etc. Of course I
talk on ideal and public case. In private you can say more, but often,
even there, saying too much leads to the contrary effect.
Bruno
Craig
Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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