On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com>wrote:
> > wait for the Nobel prizes ceremony. That way you can be assured to only > hear about the most respectable Scientific endeavours. > Anything else would be a waste of your time. This isn't a mathematical proof where I have all the information needed to judge its quality, this is a report of the results of a experiment and as such is only of value to me if I believe that he is a competent scientist and actually performed the experiment as described, and in this case I have no reason to do so. I usually believe what I read in Science or Nature even if I have not personally done the experiment because over the decades those publications have established a web of trust between the authors and the readers and the experiment has been repeated or at least examined by somebody I trust; but in this case its just crap somebody posted on the web. I'm more than willing to look at evidence provided it really is evidence, however I'm not willing to look at the "evidence" posted on a website by somebody I've never heard of because there is no web of trust between me the reader and the originator of this "evidence" as there is in a legitimate Scientific journal. As a result the only thing stuff like this is really evidence for is that somebody knows how to type. > Ideas of consequence are rarely -- if ever -- produced outside the bossom > of the establishment. > Bullshit. And speaking of Nobel Prize ceremonies, nobody predicted X Rays before Rontgen discovered them and neither he nor anybody else had a theory to explain them until many decades later, but he became the most lionized physicist of his day and received the very first Nobel Prize in Physics just a few years after he discovered them. Rontgen was making an incredible claim but the scientific community believed him because he had incredible good evidence, a photograph of the bones in his wife's hand, there is nothing equivalent to that in NDE. And even Darwin's Theory of Evolution, which has about as much emotion and prejudice aimed against it as it's possible for a Scientific theory to have, was accepted by the mainstream scientific community in less than a decade, and when he died Darwin was given a hero's funeral and buried in Westminster Abbey right next to Newton. People have been telling each other ghost stories and babbling about life after death for thousands of years but Science doesn't believe a word of it, not because it upsets scientists preconceived notions about how things work (in fact that's how you make your reputation in Science) but because the closer you look at the "evidence" for such things the more it just fades away. But maybe you believe that it's me that is full of Bullshit and not ghost stories, if so then you should accept the following bet: If Science or Nature or Physical Review Letters publishes a positive articel about life after death before April 5 2014 I will give you $1000, if none of them do you only have to give me $100. Do we have a bet? John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
