Brent, thanks for your remarks - I usually value them - now I think you went a bit overboard.
*"...Radical agnosticism, like solipism, is impossible to act on..."* * * I presume you checked all knowable and not knowable cases to decide the 'impossibility'. How 'radical'? more than you find 'reasonable'? I try to be agnostic in order to free my mind for the unusual and so far unknown. But I recognize the possibility of such. I think that is a way of advancement. The other point: ...*to act on*...? is it a must? *"...tables and chairs..."? * Did you find some 'matter-like' in the ultimate dissection of matter? only if you call YOUR energy (??) matter. I prefer a 'mini-solipsism' adjusting all info about the world according to MY capbilities (genetic make-up) for MY world-image. Other people do it differently and have an un-identical world-image. I keep the 'origins' in my agnostic mass (mess?). On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 3:44 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > On 5/1/2013 12:34 PM, John Mikes wrote: > >> Telmo: >> I would not draw nth conclusions on a plain assumption. >> Particles (IMO) are explanatory presumptions upon (mostly math-phys) >> temporary explanatory 'understanding' of some phenomena we got. >> > > Tables and chairs are also explanatory presumptions for some experiences I > have. So are other people. Radical agnosticism, like solipism, is > impossible to act on. > > > So are the reasons for 'dacay' taken from the limited access we have so >> far. >> - The rest of it goes into the term RANDOM. >> 1000 years ago there was more 'random' than today. So was 'emergent' and >> 'unexplainable (not that all our today's explanations are 'perfect' (I do >> not use "true"). >> My agnostic view includes future explanations for - what we call - >> particulate decay (random in today's usage). >> If we suppose 'order' in the world - nothing is random. >> > > That reminds me of Kant's argument: If we assume there is justice, then > their must be an afterlife in which this life's injustices are redressed. > Instead of inventing an unobservable afterlife the simpler and more > obvious conclusion is that we were wrong when we assumed there is justice. *"...if we assume..."* please, don't. You may escape from questionable conclusions. JohnM > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to > everything-list+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<everything-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > To post to this group, send email to > everything-list@googlegroups.**com<everything-list@googlegroups.com> > . > Visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/**group/everything-list?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en> > . > For more options, visit > https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> > . > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
