As you indicated it is sometimes difficult to separate the the temporal from 
eternity. Lots of the massacres commited by the marxists, were done also out of 
paranoia and thus, emotion. I don't view the marxists as any cleaner, in 
purpose or reason then the religious witch burners, or the inquisitors.  
Stalins' slaughter of the Poles and Ukrainians, or Pol Pot's riddence of of 
those who could read and write, for example. It's all a form of group madness, 
seemingly.

Mitch 



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From: meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>
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Sent: Fri, Jul 5, 2013 2:29 pm
Subject: Re: John Leslie's 'Infinite Minds: A Philosophical Cosmology'



On 7/5/2013 6:19 AM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:

Brent, please acknowledge that aside from the divine right of kings, the 
Atheist-Marxists did exactly the identical badness under the leaderships of 
Stalin,Mao, Pol Pot, the Kim Dynasty in North Korean, slaughtered tens of 
millions, tortured, deprived women of rights, slave labor, and specialized, in 
torture. All these scientific socialsts, all athesists. Just a way of putting 
things into perspective. 

But unlike the inquistion and the crusades those purges were just for political 
power, as has been done for millenia.  They were not in the name of atheism.  
Of course religion has often been used as cover for the exercise of political 
power; but in some of the most egregious cases religious belief itself has 
motivated the atrocities, c.f. the Cathars.  And why not - certainly if it 
takes torture and bloodshed on a mere temporal scale to avoid an eternity of 
torture then it is justified.

Brent
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring 
hither, and slay them before me."
   --- Jesus, Luke 19:27 


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