>> That said, Roger's point is not entirely wrong either.  I can imagine 
>> scenarios where someone acting according to politically incorrect 
>> stereotypes could make themselves safer. 

If I hated Jews I probably wouldn't visit Israel and get killed by a 
Palestinian bomb. But, for those people that don't mind Jews and do go to 
Israel and do get killed, are we to blame the bomb or their political 
correctness?

Despite Rog's penetrating evolutionary insight, I can't help but blame the 
bomb. 

But Rog doesn't really have the courage of his convictions. What starts out as 
the meaty and contentious statement 'Racism is good for you' ends up defended 
by the far less contentious: Mummy says don't talk to strangers "no matter what 
their color". And where exactly is the racism in that? He was supposed to be 
defending racism but does it by offering an example in which he explicitly 
removes any hint of it. 

I feel like banging my head with a bible. 


From: jasonre...@gmail.com
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: We are all naturally racists. Political correctness is likely to 
get you killed.
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:37:49 -0500



On Jul 17, 2013, at 5:21 PM, chris peck <chris_peck...@hotmail.com> wrote:




Hi Rog



A taste for fat 'helped us survive' back in the day. Doesnt mean it will be 
much use now. Infact now it just causes obesity and revulsion in the people you 
should be trying to attract. 
I believe the best evidence for the cause of obesity (as well as cancer, heart 
disease, diabetes, and possibly alzheimers) is sugar and refined carbohydrates 
(not fat).  The most convincing source on this that I have found is Gary Taubes 
book "good calories, bad calories".
The ecology changes, see? Same with racism. If it ever was of use, unlikely
 but 'if' it was, nowadays it just induces brain rot in bitter old coots.
I agree with this point.  Society changes much faster than our genes, and the 
pace of society's change is only increasing.
We carry much "evolutary baggage" as Carl Sagan said, and it imperils our own 
existance.  It is xenophobia and tribalism that let us value the lives of other 
groups less than those of our own group, and this is why we live under the 
threat of nuclear annhilation.
That said, Roger's point is not entirely wrong either.  I can imagine scenarios 
where someone acting according to politically incorrect stereotypes could make 
themselves safer. 
Jason




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From: "Alberto G. Corona" <agocor...@gmail.com>

Sent: 18 July 2013 6:59 AM

To: everything-list@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: We are all naturally racists. Political correctness is likely to 
get you killed.





I don´t know why, but Roger don´t seems to understand that. I doubt that he 
read the responses.




2013/7/17 Jesse Mazer <laserma...@gmail.com>


Roger, can you please stop using this list as an outlet for any thoughts you 
have about politics and such? If it isn't related to the multiverse or some 
other fundamental metaphysical issues like consciousness, it doesn't belong 
here.



Jesse







On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Roger Clough 
<rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:



Political correctness is likely to get you killed. 
 
We are all naturally racists. Blame it on Darwin. Zenophobia --

fear or dislike of outsiders--is what has allowed us to survive.

 
Unfortunately the liberalized dictionaries I can find online refer
to it as "abnormal" or "irrational".  Is it abnormal to be
cautious in the presence of strangers ? The left refers to
such feelings as "politically incorrect". But I don't think it
is irrational for a mother to tell her children not to talk to strangers,

no matter what their color.
 
We instinctively, for our own safety, are somewhat fearful
and unfriendly to strangers, no matter what their color. 

Jesus said to love our neighbors, but he didn't say to
go looking for strangers to love.
 
So IMHO political correctness is likely to get you killed.
 
 
 

Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]
See my Leibniz site at

http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough





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