>> That said, Roger's point is not entirely wrong either. I can imagine >> scenarios where someone acting according to politically incorrect >> stereotypes could make themselves safer.
If I hated Jews I probably wouldn't visit Israel and get killed by a Palestinian bomb. But, for those people that don't mind Jews and do go to Israel and do get killed, are we to blame the bomb or their political correctness? Despite Rog's penetrating evolutionary insight, I can't help but blame the bomb. But Rog doesn't really have the courage of his convictions. What starts out as the meaty and contentious statement 'Racism is good for you' ends up defended by the far less contentious: Mummy says don't talk to strangers "no matter what their color". And where exactly is the racism in that? He was supposed to be defending racism but does it by offering an example in which he explicitly removes any hint of it. I feel like banging my head with a bible. From: jasonre...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: We are all naturally racists. Political correctness is likely to get you killed. Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 19:37:49 -0500 On Jul 17, 2013, at 5:21 PM, chris peck <chris_peck...@hotmail.com> wrote: Hi Rog A taste for fat 'helped us survive' back in the day. Doesnt mean it will be much use now. Infact now it just causes obesity and revulsion in the people you should be trying to attract. I believe the best evidence for the cause of obesity (as well as cancer, heart disease, diabetes, and possibly alzheimers) is sugar and refined carbohydrates (not fat). The most convincing source on this that I have found is Gary Taubes book "good calories, bad calories". The ecology changes, see? Same with racism. If it ever was of use, unlikely but 'if' it was, nowadays it just induces brain rot in bitter old coots. I agree with this point. Society changes much faster than our genes, and the pace of society's change is only increasing. We carry much "evolutary baggage" as Carl Sagan said, and it imperils our own existance. It is xenophobia and tribalism that let us value the lives of other groups less than those of our own group, and this is why we live under the threat of nuclear annhilation. That said, Roger's point is not entirely wrong either. I can imagine scenarios where someone acting according to politically incorrect stereotypes could make themselves safer. Jason --- Original Message --- From: "Alberto G. Corona" <agocor...@gmail.com> Sent: 18 July 2013 6:59 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: We are all naturally racists. Political correctness is likely to get you killed. I don´t know why, but Roger don´t seems to understand that. I doubt that he read the responses. 2013/7/17 Jesse Mazer <laserma...@gmail.com> Roger, can you please stop using this list as an outlet for any thoughts you have about politics and such? If it isn't related to the multiverse or some other fundamental metaphysical issues like consciousness, it doesn't belong here. Jesse On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote: Political correctness is likely to get you killed. We are all naturally racists. Blame it on Darwin. Zenophobia -- fear or dislike of outsiders--is what has allowed us to survive. Unfortunately the liberalized dictionaries I can find online refer to it as "abnormal" or "irrational". Is it abnormal to be cautious in the presence of strangers ? The left refers to such feelings as "politically incorrect". But I don't think it is irrational for a mother to tell her children not to talk to strangers, no matter what their color. We instinctively, for our own safety, are somewhat fearful and unfriendly to strangers, no matter what their color. Jesus said to love our neighbors, but he didn't say to go looking for strangers to love. So IMHO political correctness is likely to get you killed. Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000] See my Leibniz site at http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Alberto. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.