Hi Chris

>> Increasingly code is the result of genetic algorithms being run over many
generations of Darwinian selection -- is this programmed code? What human
hand wrote it? At how many removes?

In evolutionary computations the 'programmer' has control over the fitness 
function which ultimately guides the evolution of algorithms towards a highly 
specific goal.

Moreover, outside of the IT lab, there is no competition for the algorithm to 
evolve against nor is there a genuine ecology supplying pressures against which 
selection can happen. Why? Because that is what the fitness function provides. 
It is wrong to suppose that genetic algorithms evolve without human input. The 
human input is as essential to the evolutionary technique as natural selection 
is to evolution proper. Without it nothing evolves at all.


We might therefore find lurking in the some dark nether region of the inter web 
a program secretly plotting how to get from John o Groats to Lands End by the 
quickest route. But I don't think we'ld find much more than that. :)

All the best.

Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 19:59:46 -0700
From: meeke...@verizon.net
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Rambling on AI -- was: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?


  
    
  
  
    On 8/17/2013 4:53 PM, Chris de Morsella
      wrote:

    
    
      We must not limit the rise of AI to any single geo-located system and 
ignore
just how fertile of an ecosystem the global networked world of machines and
connected devices provides for a nimble highly virtualized AI that exist in
no place at any given time, but has neurons in millions (possibly billions)
of devices everywhere on earth... an AI that cannot be shut down without
shutting down literally everything that is so deeply penetrated and embedded
in all our systems that it becomes impossible to extricate.
I am speculating of course and have no evidence that this is indeed
occurring, but am presenting it as a potential architecture of awareness.
    
    

    I agree that such and
      AI is possible, but I think it is extremely unlikely for the same
      reason it is unlikely that an animal with human-like intelligence
      could evolve - that niche is taken.  Your scenarios contemplate an
      AI that evolves somehow in secret and then spring upon us fully
      developed.  But the evolving AI would show it's hand *before* it
      became superhumanly clever at hiding.

      

      Brent

    
  





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