Chris and Smitra are performing a collective filtering of history, in which barbarism is merely a feature of "capitalism" while jolly, socialists, are completely ignored because, if a socialist tortures, or slaugters the innocent, that's different. Because they are ultimately,, 'helping mankind.' Stalin and Pol Pot, and the Kim dynasty of North Korea, and Mao's Great Leap Forward, were all 'undertandable excesses in desparate times' and so forth and so on. This is the kind of thinking that most Leftists capitulated with, when Stalin achieved his Pact of Steel with Herr Hitler from 1939-41. Nobody has a higher body-count of the massacred, then the Left and this is coming from someone who's blood relatives were slain by dear Adolf. In fact, I am betting had not the Furher decided to turn against his chum, Stalin (Dzugadashvilli) the socialists and the national socialists would be fine friends. I would reccomend The Bloodlands, as a history book of both Josep and Adolf, but there'd be no readers here. Ideology rules all I suppose?
-----Original Message----- From: Chris de Morsella <cdemorse...@yahoo.com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sun, Aug 25, 2013 2:37 pm Subject: RE: The Nazi History of the Muslim Brotherhood >> And yes half a century ago the CIA over through some 2 bit leaders in Chile >> and Iran, big deal. John you are either grossly ignorant of history, or squeeze it like toothpaste through the aperture of your ideological point of view. The actual historical facts are that both Chilean president Salvador Allende and Iranian president Mohammad Mossadegh were democratically elected and popular leaders of their respective nations. Your choice of words “2 bit leaders” actually says a lot about the kind of person you are… a person who is cavalier with the facts and who is prone to distort events to fit the ideological prism you inhabit. I suppose the many thousands of people who were tortured to death and dumped into the Pacific Ocean by Pinochets death squads were just two bit people as well in your esteemed opinion. Does your clearly self-evident and shockingly casual disregard for the truth – when it comes to politics -- extend to everything you do and say or is your willingness to lie and grotesquely mischaracterize history, limited to the political and religious spheres of existence and by some strange mechanism you are able to see things with a clear and open mind in areas of discussion that do not involve your own peculiar political beliefs? -Chris From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:53 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: The Nazi History of the Muslim Brotherhood On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Chris de Morsella <cdemorse...@yahoo.com> wrote: Fascism unlike Communism (at the level of lip service at least) never preached a Universal Fascist state – an 1000 year Reich of one tribe over other inferior races maybe, but that idea lacks universal appeal. And lip service (who wouldn't want a workers paradise?) is the only reason that today people would have far more sympathy for Senator McCarthy if he'd gone after Neo-Nazis instead of Communists, and in general lip service is the one and only reason Communism has always seemed more respectable than Nazism even though it has caused at least as much misery in the world. In the 30's Stalin murdered millions of his own people and in the 20's Lenin forced people to abandon their private farms and go to huge corrupt monumentally inefficient collective farms with the result that millions died of starvation; In the 50's Mao did the exact same stupid thing in China in the name of communism and at least 30 million starved to death. In the 70's in Cambodia the communists murdered a greater percentage of their population than any regime in the history of the world. In the 90's in North Korea, a nightmare country as bad as anything George Orwell could dream up, communism caused two million to starve to death while South Korea, a country with the same culture and language but without communism became a world economic powerhouse. And yes half a century ago the CIA over through some 2 bit leaders in Chile and Iran, big deal. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
