On 01 Oct 2013, at 18:10, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Bruno's UDA eventually removes the requirement for a copy being
primitively real. That's one of the things that impressed me about the
argument. I think your position requires that you find a way to refute
the UDA.
I think that it does so by taking the need for a concrete universe
for granted. It's a leak in UDA's philosophical vacuum. We can
explain away the reality of realism, but what of the expectation of
realistic qualities? Such an expectation would surely be ground to
dust as each dust-mite's belch demands an infinity of universes to
house its permutations and interactions. Where would a quality of
realism arise from? Why is it something we need to explain away?
You are the one treating my sun in law like he was a zombie. Like if
you knew, and could put away what he might be feeling.
Comp explain away matter, perhaps, not consciousness and mind. UDA
starts from it, and AUDA recover it by listening to the machines, and
already not treating them as zombie.
You are the one having a reductionist view of what machines can and
cannot do, and seem to ignore that their relative representations are
only the gates through which consciousness can differentiate. Our
first person are, mathematically, not computable nor duplicable from
our perspective, but we are 3-multiplied in the extreme, and the waves
comes from that competition, below our sharable substitution level.
And there is math tools here so we can and will progress.
Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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