On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> wrote: > Why does the relation of aesthetic experience to computation have to be > reduced to a simple question about convenience? If I don't want to be a > ventriloquist's dummy does that mean I should keep quiet about Pinocchio not > being a real boy?
Because it's a very straightforward way to use the human brain as a test for how well a machine performs a human task. It's a fair test. Once convenience is at stake, humans lie less. Pinocchio is an excellent example. Suppose there's some TV show that needs a boy to play a role. They would not be happy with Pinocchio, but one day they might be happy with a robot. Then we will know that some progress has been made. So I'm basically challenging the Humans - 1, Machines - 0 assertion. One day the automatic cashier will be able to recognise vegetables better than any human. When this day comes, you will complain that the automatic cashier doesn't really mean it when it wishes you a nice day. More importantly: you set a standard that can never be achieved and then you point out that it wasn't achieved by any artificial entity we throw at you. Then you conclude that this is meaningful evidence for your theory, but it's circular. > On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 4:04:41 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote: >> >> >> >> Craig, a simple question: would you rather put up with the limitations >> of automatic cashiers or have to work as a cashier sometimes? >> >> > Craig >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups >> > "Everything List" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> > an >> > email to everything-li...@googlegroups.com. >> > To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.com. >> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
