On 10/11/2013 4:45 PM, Pierz wrote:
On Saturday, October 12, 2013 10:08:05 AM UTC+11, Brent wrote:
On 10/11/2013 3:44 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 03:08:30PM -0700, meekerdb wrote:
UD* (trace of the universal dovetailer) is a continuum, AFAICT. It has
the cardinality of the reals, and a natural metric (d(x,y) = 2^{-n}, where
n is
the number of leading bits in common between x and y).
Hmm? So 1000 is the same distance from 10 and 111? What's the measure on
this space?
1000... and 101... are 0.25 apart. 1000.. and 111... are 0.5
apart. (the ... refers to an infinite number of bits that are not
relevant to the computation). So the answer to your question is that
these these three strings are not the same distance from each other.
The measure over a set of these things would be something like the
supremum over the distance between any two pairs drawn from the
set. Of course, that assumes that only sets defined by finite length
prefixes, and countable unions and intersections thereof are
considered. My maths chops aren't quite up to generalising this for
arbitrary sets of binary strings.
Maybe I'm not clear on what UD* means. I took it to be, at a given state
of the UD,
the last bit output by the 1st prog, the last bit output by the 2nd
program,...up to
the last prog that the UD has started. Right?
Brent
But Russell just said there *is* no output.
I just meant last printed onto the tape.
Brent
There are only machine states (computation X is at step Y and so on). I thought the UD*
was the entire history of computational states the the UD passes through from the moment
it starts up to ... well, forever.
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