John, I came across this today, which you might find of interest: http://arxiv.org/pdf/quant-ph/9709032v1.pdf
In particular section 3 goes to great pains to describe the importance of the first person / third person distinction. From the paper: A. “It doesn’t explain why we perceive randomness” Everett’s brilliant insight was that the MWI does explain why we perceive randomness even though the Schrodinger equation itself is completely causal. To avoid linguistic confusion, it is crucial that we distinguish between • the outside view of the world (the way a mathematical thinks of it, i.e., as an evolving wavefunction), and • the inside view, the way it is perceived from the subjective frog perspective of an observer in it. Therefore, the 1st / 3rd person views are not just some obscure aspect of Bruno's theory that is unknown or unused in any other part of science, it is critical in other theories of science too. You dismiss it as "pee pee" and that is what prevents you from arriving at the correct conclusion, I think. If you take into account the first person "inside view" or "frog perspective", you get a different result than when you use only the third person "outside view" or "bird perspective". Your confusion regarding the third step has nothing to do with pronouns or personal identity, it is purely due to a focus on only the objective perspective when the experiment calls for use of the subjective perspective. Jason On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 1:59 PM, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com>wrote: > > >> In the MWI John Clark doesn't have to worry about who "you" is because >>> however many copies of "you" there may or may not be they will never meet >>> >> >> > What does it have to do with prediction and probability ? >> > > In the MWI if John Clark is asked for a prediction or a probability or > anything for that matter about "you" further clarification is not needed, > in a thought experiment involving people duplicating machines it is. > > > you refuse to let work your brain while you doesn't do *as you should* >> > > You doesn't well speak. > > John K Clark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
