On 28 Oct 2013, at 19:55, Craig Weinberg wrote:



On Monday, October 28, 2013 1:53:02 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:



I refer you to my rare posts where I suggest that the level is the molecular level, and should include the glial cells, which in my opinion (from diverse reading) handle to information.

I also defend the idea that an amoeba, by being unicellular, can be seen as a cell being simultaneously a digestive cell, a muscular cells, a liver cell, a kidney cell, a bone cell, and a brain cell.

Amoebas are not completely stupid and deserve respects, and so are any each of our own cells, despite those cells in multicellular organism have lost a bit of their freedom and universality to cooperate in what is ourself.

Again, the bold quote illustrates comp, and the fact that the level is lower than some thought.

Also with comp, consciousness is NOT a product of the mind. that's still too much an aristotelian way to express the "identity" thesis. Consciousness is not physical, it is the mental state of person associated to machines, when those person develop *some* true belief.

So if dendrites and molecules are people, why not quarks and numbers?

Cells are people, perhaps. Dendrites and molecules lack self- referential means, like quarks. relative numbers does not lack them, but as 3p pure notion, are not people, but people can emerge from them and their cognitive abilities.

Bruno





Bruno


http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/




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