Brent, let us look at human nature as it exists and not posit perfection to
scientists and bureaucrats. Climate scientist who peddle AGW have skin in the
game. What's their reward? They get guaranteed jobs and do the planning and
make policies if true, thus, their careers are set Bureaucrat's ,like
politicians, want power over others and also have guaranteed careers. If AGW
is more nuanced, shall we say, then the salaries, the power is diminished. If
the climate pause takes longer, then the people proposing climate change, have
to come up with an excuse. Notice, please that until recently, AGW is now
called Climate Change. My best bet on this is that the term was change to cover
all variations in climate, in case it doesn't get warmer, as exemplified by the
UK's weather over the last 10 years. No Miami temps in London so far. This goes
against earlier forecasts, doesn't it?
Now to your Libertarian denial theme, let us say I am agnostic but deeply
suspicious myself, but allow me to counter question.
1. What non-carbon fuel source do you have at the ready to replace climate
damaging fossil fuels?
2. Do your solutions include switching off dirty power in the US, without a
working substitute?
3. What do you recommend if the US refuses to comply?
4. Ditto, India, China, Russia, Brazil, Indonesia, Mexico, etc?
I guess I am at step 5 and 6 on your scheme of things. But if you have
knowledge of workable solutions, maybe you could write about it? Even
denialists want to hear what we all can do?
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From: meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 9, 2013 3:55 pm
Subject: Re: Our Demon-Haunted World
On 11/9/2013 9:37 AM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
Brent, my analogy, however badly its thought-up, is to force the
idealists to produce. My idea was to force the idealist back to
painful reality and hard choices, rather then mentally living in La La
land. Saying "Oh they're working on solar and soon.."
How about forcing the libertarians to painful reality. They're going
through the six stages of denial:
1. There is no global warming.
2. The science is uncertain.
3. There's global warming but it's just a natural cycle.
4. Global warming will really be good for us.
5. It's too costly to stop global warming.
6. Nothing can be done.
Most of them I know are stuck around 3 or 4 now. They're hoping to
delay any action so they can get to 6. Why? Because they'd rather face
extinction than admit there are some things that you need government to do.
Brent
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