On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 11:41 PM, John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Telmo, oil wells went down deeper than previously estimated as > feasible. Techniques are evolving. > If 2, 0r 5 pipes are inadequate in transport capacity, use more. Ask the > engineers - I also claim ignorance. > the geological temperature vertical map is varying according to a lot of > factors. > Ignorance is not a good argument for not considering (and asking).
I agree. But sometimes we're lazy. My worry is always the same: the energy budget necessary to drill the holes and maintain the infrastructure compared to the yield. I'm not saying this isn't a good idea, just that this analysis in necessary to make it convincing. I would be glad to be convinced and then I would like to have enough money to invest in your company :) Best, Telmo. > John > > > On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com> > wrote: >> >> Hi John, >> >> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:33 PM, John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Telmo: >> > unfortunately I reflected to the NZ solution on another list... - it is >> > a >> > convoluted - I could say: >> > inadeqyate - technology, just as the Au version of the surface >> > utilization. >> > SOME PARTS OF THE WORLD??? let us say: the surface? >> > Solar woulrd cover immense surfaces just for supplying the energy as >> > needed >> > TODAY and we >> > will need a multiple of that soon... See my remark to Russell. >> > So far NOBODY was interested in my suggestions: ewverybody blows his OWN >> > pipe. >> > Geotherm is under our feet - dry lamd or oceans. Pipes are stuck down >> > for >> > OIL, similar - if a bit >> > longer for geothermic energy extraction with 2 pipes inserted: ONE for >> > pumping DOWN the >> > ultrapure (Si-free) water into a heat-exchanger at ~140+C environment, >> > the >> > OTHER to ascend >> > the high pressure steam straight into the turbine. No deposit, as in NZ. >> >> Sorry, I didn't comment out of ignorance. The idea sounds very attractive. >> What about depth? Is the necessary depth similar to oil extraction? >> And what about yield? How many of these pipes would we need to replace >> the energy output of a typical oil rig? Is it scalable? >> >> Cheers, >> Telmo. >> >> > JOhn Mikes >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 6:39 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 15 November 2013 11:39, John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Telmo and other 'experts': >> >>> why does nobody even mention the geothermic energy app - available in >> >>> huge Q-s and so far tapped only in (literalily) 'superficial' usage. >> >>> The >> >>> high pressure ultra-clean steam from a deepened modification of the >> >>> exhausted oil wells may provide much much more energy than today's >> >>> needs, so >> >>> it could serve as driving force for more than we think by ongoing >> >>> technology. (E.g. potable water, agri-irrigation, when fresh-water >> >>> becomes >> >>> scarce - like now - pollution-free transportation, keeping politicians >> >>> in >> >>> asylum, etc.) . >> >> >> >> >> >> I assume you mean geothermal energy. It is used in New Zealand but >> >> doesn't >> >> provide as much energy as wind and hydro as far as I know. >> >> >> >> It's an option in some parts of the world, certainly, but I would say >> >> solar is more readily available overall. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups >> >> "Everything List" group. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> >> an >> >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups >> > "Everything List" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> > an >> > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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