2013/12/5 Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> > > > > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> >> >> 2013/12/5 Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 05 Dec 2013, at 09:53, Jason Resch wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2013/12/5 Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Quentin Anciaux >>>>>> <allco...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Measure is relative, >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, so your current measure of next finding yourself in a Drelb >>>>>> continuation, is relatively low compared to the measure of you still >>>>>> being >>>>>> conscious on Earth. But if you point a quantum gun at your head and pull >>>>>> the trigger 30 times, your Earth-continuation measure continues to fall, >>>>>> it >>>>>> is reduced by a factor of a billion. At this point, your Drelb-based >>>>>> extensions may become relatively higher than your Earth-based extensions, >>>>>> and therefore you would be likely to experience a transition to those >>>>>> realms of higher measure. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> it doesn't drop while you approach death. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Your measure drops whenever you make yourself more unique, >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You doesn't, you always have an infinity of continuations. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In measure theory ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measure_(mathematics) ) >>>> just because there are an infinite number does not mean they are equal. >>>> Your measure each time you pull the trigger in the quantum gun is >>>> (approximately) halved. >>>> >>>> >>>> ? >>>> >>>> Your relative measure on the continuations where you survive remains >>>> constant and equal to one. >>>> >>> >>> >>> I was considering only the continuations where you survive, (which >>> subjectively is one), but the proportion of the continuations where you >>> survive that are explained by non-traditional means (simulation argument, >>> dream of God, etc.) increases relative to the dwindling the fraction of >>> biologically surviving instances. >>> >>> When I spoke of one's measure decreasing, I was referring to the >>> person's objective measure in reality, which to me seems to decrease when >>> one is tested by a dangerous encounter. I am not suggesting that there was >>> a 50% chance you would "stop being you" when you pull the trigger, but that >>> there is an ever increasing chance you will take some strange paths to >>> survive. And this is because the measure of the biologically surviving >>> copies, relative to the non-biological surviving copies, decreases. >>> >>> >>> >>>> We cannot count the cul-de-sac reality (and that is why Bp & Dt can >>>> give a quantum measure). Some absolute measure does not make sense. >>>> >>>> >>> Does RSSA imply one does no harm to their measure (objective or >>> subjective) by spending a day in the the box with Schrodinger's cat? >>> >>> >> No, because there is no absolute measure to decrease to begin with. The >> thing is, doing dangerous thing *increase* likeliness to experience being >> crippled, that's what is more likely. >> > > My understanding of the RSSA vs. ASSA difference concerns only the > expectation of one's next conscious experience. That is, the RSSA does not > deny the reality of an objective, global, relative measure of all observers >
It doesn't deby it, it doesn't say anything about it... the thing is, ASSA is inconsisent, and not compatible with RSSA. Quentin > , it says only that the measure of those other observers (which are not > continuations of one's current state) are irrelevant to predicting your > next experience. Is this incorrect? > > Jason > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. (Roy Batty/Rutger Hauer) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
