On 12/6/2013 12:31 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

On 05 Dec 2013, at 19:29, meekerdb wrote:

On 12/5/2013 1:43 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

On 04 Dec 2013, at 13:13, Alberto G. Corona wrote:

I repeat the cult of men to men is the most primitive and dangerous religion. And RELIGION CAN NOT BE AVOIDED: you can not live without a form of religion or religions like you can not live alone.

This is just Paul Tilllich trick to convert everyone to religion by redefining religion. People cannot live without trust - they can live just fine without faith in religion.

Then why all that fuss by atheists when we show they need faith in something beyond what they can prove.

First, because you didn't show that we need faith - only that we need trust. Trust is different than faith; it is tested and earned.

Why atheists act so much like the pseudo-religious fellow?

Because you redefine 'religious' to try to sweep everybody into that category. I might ask, if everybody is religious, then what use is the word - if it conveys no distinction if is meaningless.

If atheists were a bit more agnostic on matter and possible persons, they would applaud at the use of the religious terms in science.

Atheists on this list are, like myself, agnostic about many things. But it would be foolish to believe in the gods of Olympus and the god of Abraham and all those other Big Daddies in the Sky whose worship is denominated "theism".

Why do they defend the peculiar authoritative use made by the institutions?

The use is authoritative because it is ubiquitous; that's how language is. I don't "defend" it. I look it up in the dictionary.

Brent

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