On 20 Dec 2013, at 02:15, Craig Weinberg wrote:

If it's all just math, what is the unexpected surprise that makes it funny? Is math surprised that its math?

It is of course only surprising for those deluded (assuming comp) into thinking that there is some primitive non mathematical reality, like the aristotelian theologian, who believe in a non mathematical primitively physical universe.

The real surprise, in the arithmetic internal views, is the existence of the universe (not the fact that it is not a primitive).

The absence of X, if proved, would surprise the believers in X, in a same way.

"Surprised" is prejudice dependent.

Bruno





On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 2:07:47 AM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
http://abstrusegoose.com/544

Brent

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