I read Edgar's book and it is entirely words and mostly assertions- no math
at all.
In my opinion that makes his book not credible
Richard


On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Edgar L. Owen <edgaro...@att.net> wrote:

> All,
>
> Both Roger and Bruno took issue with my definition of reality to include
> theories about reality. But the proper definition of reality is that
> reality includes everything that exists and theories of reality most
> certainly exist. Roger and Bruno seem to be coming from the old dualistic
> definition of reality in which some things (generally the 'physical' world)
> are real and some things aren't real (generally thoughts e.g. about the
> physical world).
>
> While this dualistic definition of reality may be useful in daily life it
> fails on the philosophical level. In truth the entirety of reality is
> computational and both 'physical' events and mental are both part of that
> same single computational nexus. Roger gives the example of hitting a table
> with his fist as something that is real as opposed to a theory about
> reality which isn't but in fact the reality of the experience of both is
> electrical signals (information computations) in the brain. They are both
> computations in the brain.
>
> The proper definition is that everything that exists is real and therefore
> part of reality. Everything that exists is a computationally evolving
> information state in reality and that is why it is real, however its
> reality is exactly what it actually is, what its computational forms
> actually are, and this is true for everything including both what our minds
> interpret as 'physical' events and 'mental'. If you must make that
> distinction then of course everything without exception in our thoughts and
> experience is mental, but the deeper truth is that its all computationally
> evolving information however it's interpreted by our minds.
>
> Thus the only philosophically consistent definition of reality includes
> everything that exists without exception, including thoughts and theories.
>
> But there is a deeper truth here in that reality itself exists
> independently of its particular contents as a thing in itself. In fact
> prior to the big bang it was empty of any actualized information at all,
> but it still existed in a state similar to a generalized quantum vacuum.
>
> This reality itself is what makes the computations that occur within it
> real and actual and have being, it is what gives them life. It is what I
> call 'Ontological Energy' which is simply the (non-physical) space of
> reality whose presence manifests as the present moment in which we and
> everything exists. All the computationally evolving information that exists
> exists like waves, ripples and currents in the sea of existence itself, in
> the ocean of ontological energy, the logical space or locus of reality and
> actuality.
>
> Reality is a single ocean of ontological energy and everything that exists
> exists as a computationally evolving information form within it. There is
> nothing outside of it because there is no outside. Therefore there is no
> possibility of anything being 'not real' or not part of reality. There is
> only the different categories of reality of different information forms
> within reality.
>
> Edgar
>
>
>
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