On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edgaro...@att.net> wrote:
> The proof is simply the fact that the time traveling twins meet up again > with different clock times, but always in the exact same present moment. > This proves beyond any doubt there are two kinds of time, clock time which > varies by relativistic observer, and the time of the present moment (what I > call P-time) which is absolute and common to all observers across the > universe. > It's all a question of simultaneity, sometimes observers can agree that 2 events were simultaneous, and sometimes they can not, it all depends on the circumstances; and the amount of disagreement can vary from zero to as large a value as you'd care to name. So I don't see why zero is more special or "absolute" than any other number. And nothing that happens in the Andromeda Galaxy 2 million light years away can have any effect on me for 2 million years, and nothing I do can have any effect on Andromeda for 2 million years. So even asking "what are things like right now on Andromeda?" is a ambiguous question. Does it mean how things look in my telescope when light left Andromeda 2 million years ago? Or does it mean Andromeda 2 million years in the future when something I do here can make a change there? So what does "right now" even mean? John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
