On Dec 29, 2013, at 4:37 AM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote:

On 29 December 2013 13:11, Edgar L. Owen <edgaro...@att.net> wrote:
Jason and John,

If something is random it can't be computed by any deterministic process. That's the meaning.

I thought the digits of pi were random, but computable by a deterministic process?

The digits themselves are thought to be uniformily distributed, but they are of course completely deterministic, as well as compressible (since a short program can generate them).

So it meets at most one of the three definitions for random that I gave.

Jason


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