Dear Bruno, Why do you not consider an isomorphism between the Category of computer/universal-numbers and physical realities? That way we can avoid a lot of problems! I think that it is because of your insistence of the Platonic view that the material/physical realm is somehow lesser in ontological status and the assumption that a timeless totality = the appearance of change (and its measures) is illusory. I would like to be wrong in this presumption!
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > > On 29 Dec 2013, at 20:30, meekerdb wrote: > > On 12/29/2013 5:59 AM, Edgar L. Owen wrote: >> >>> Liz, >>> >>> Reality doesn't seem to have any difficulty computing the results of >>> random choices. >>> >> > > If reality computes, then reality is a computer/universal-number. If > reality is physical reality, then this is the digital physics thesis, which > is self-contradictory (due to the UDA). > Also, computing and obtaining a random result is contradictory by itself, > as computing is determinated. It can make sense with a quantum computer, or > with self-duplication, (or both like in Everett), so you might clarify > here. Are you (Edgar, Brent) assuming a quantum computer? With comp this is > a sort of treachery, as far as we are concerned with the fundamental > reality. > > Bruno > > > That's how practically all computations occur. If we assume, or define, >>> reality as computational then reality is computing random results by >>> definition. It's obviously something that reality math does quite well. >>> >> >> It's not Church-Turing, but it might be the way the world works. >> >> Brent >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > topic/everything-list/1NWmK1IeadI/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- Kindest Regards, Stephen Paul King Senior Researcher Mobile: (864) 567-3099 stephe...@provensecure.com http://www.provensecure.us/ “This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may be constituted as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, notify sender immediately and delete this message immediately.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
