On 30 Dec 2013, at 21:43, Stephen Paul King wrote:
Dear LizR and Brent,
I will try to go at this from a different direction. What exactly
does "fundamental level" mean? Does there have to be "something
fundamental"?
Fundamental is often used in two senses. either as "very important".
In that sense physics and math are fundamental.
Or is the sense of "primitive", that is, what we have to assume at the
start, like the primitive symbol in a theory, intended to denote what
we admit to exist at the start. We need them because we cannot derive
anything from nothing. Even in the "nothing theories", we need the
mathematical axioms to handle some notion of nothing.
Consider Leibniz' monadology: strip it of the anthropocentrism and
religiosity and one obtains a nice "any one thing is made from
combinations of other things" concept that has no need for something
fundamental.
I have a question: what would be the most simple Boolean algebra?
{0, 1} (unless you accept the degenerate BA like {0} or {1}, but
usually we ask 0≠1.
Bruno
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>
wrote:
On 12/30/2013 2:07 AM, LizR wrote:
On 30 December 2013 21:02, Stephen Paul King <stephe...@provensecure.com
> wrote:
Dear Bruno,
Why do you not consider an isomorphism between the Category of
computer/universal-numbers and physical realities? That way we can
avoid a lot of problems!
I think that it is because of your insistence of the Platonic
view that the material/physical realm is somehow lesser in
ontological status and the assumption that a timeless totality =
the appearance of change (and its measures) is illusory. I would
like to be wrong in this presumption!
The problem is that assuming the material / physical realm as
fundamental gets you no further than assuming that "God did it!"
It's a "shut up and calculate" (or shut up and pray) ontology.
With materialism you just have a "brute fact" - well, maybe that's
it, maybe there is just a brute, unexplained fact. But us ape
descended life forms like to look for explanations even beneath the
apparent brute facts!
But "Everything happens" is just as useless as "God did it". A
theory that can explain anything fails to explain at all.
Brent
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