On 31 January 2014 17:13, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:32:02 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
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>> It isn't *essential. *Technically, I believe I/O can be added to a
>> computer programme as some sort of initial settings (for any given run of
>> the programme).
>>
>
> Added how though? By inputting code, yes?
>

All code has to be input. That isn't input TO the programme, however, it's
setting up the programme before it is run.

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>
>> Obviously this isn't much use in practice, of course! But from a
>> philosophical perspective it's possible, so it isn't ontologically
>> essential to the function of computation.
>>
>> A trivial example would be my son's Python programme to generate 2000
>> digits of pi. It just uses some existing equation which generates each
>> digit in sequence. It happens to write the output to the screen, but if he
>> took out the relevant PRINT statement, it wouldn't - but it would still
>> compute the result.
>>
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> The existing equation was input at some point though, and without the
> output, whether or not there was a computation is academic (and
> unfalsifiable).
>

That wasn't the point. The question was whether I/O is ontologically
essential to the function of computation. Quite clearly, the answer is no.
The function of computation *can* exist without any I/O, so that answers
the question.

I was just answering your question honestly and as accurately as I could.
If you're going to change the question to something else when I attempt to
answer it, I won't bother in future.

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