On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 6:40 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edgaro...@att.net> wrote:

> Jesse,
>
> OK, what I don't understand in this clearer example near the end of your
> post is you say "The coordinate time of an event *is* just clock time on
> the local coordinate clock that was at the same point in spacetime as the
> event".
>
> This clock, call it C, on the grid that was at the same point in spacetime
> as the meeting event (which takes place on earth) is also a clock on earth,
> at earth's location on the grid. Twin B's clock also stayed at that exact
> same x,y,z point on the coordinate grid during the trip, and there was no
> relative motion between B and C.
>
> So why does B's clock read 40 years and clock C, which you claim gives the
> t-value of the meeting event, read 50 years when they were both at the same
> location during the trip?
>

My scenario never specified that we were using a coordinate system where B
was at rest. But yes, if B was at rest next to clock C the whole time,
clock C would measure a coordinate time interval of 40 years between A
leaving Earth and A returning. That still doesn't necessarily mean that C
would actually read 40 years when A returns--it could be that clock C was
set to 0 10 years before A departed, for example. It is most common in twin
paradox analyses to use a coordinate system where the twins depart at a
coordinate time of 0, though.



>
> Aren't you mistaken here since clocks B and C are comoving throughout the
> duration of the trip and thus must remain synchronized?
>
> If that is true you seem to be saying that we must preferentially take the
> stay at home twin's clock time as the correct t-value of the same point in
> spacetime that the meeting occurs, the clock time of the observer that
> didn't move from the start to end point. Is that correct?
>
> If so, again it's just a definition, and a strange one at that, because no
> matter if the traveling twin resets his clock to that t-value you claim is
> the correct/natural? t value of the meeting event, his age still remains
> just 30.
>

I never said the t-value was correct/natural, it is just the coordinate
time in one particular coordinate system, which is no more correct/natural
than any other coordinate system.

Jesse

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