WHAT ARE YOUR ASSUMPTIONS, SCHOOLBOY?

Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL

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> On 17 Feb 2014, at 2:00 am, "Edgar L. Owen" <edgaro...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Kim,
> 
> I hope you are aware that constantly harboring so much hatred, especially 
> such delusional unfounded hatred, is quite likely to result in serious health 
> problems.
> 
> For your own sake, I'd suggest you try to lighten up and see the bright and 
> healthy aspects of life!
> 
> Best,
> Edgar
> 
> 
> 
>> On Saturday, February 15, 2014 7:20:09 PM UTC-5, Kim Jones wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 15 Feb 2014, at 10:58 pm, David Nyman <da...@davidnyman.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 15 February 2014 10:25, LizR <liz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, I wonder that. I generally assume people arguing on a forum like this 
>>>> are rational (ish) and hence that they intend what they say and when they 
>>>> keep avoiding questions it's because they don't want to answer them, and 
>>>> when they're rude and arrogant it's intentional, and so on. But sometimes 
>>>> I think they can't be conscious of what they're doing, that surely no one 
>>>> would want to be like that deliberately, at least no one interersted in 
>>>> truth and science - maybe money and politics. It's a mystery, to me at 
>>>> least.
>>>  
>>> Galen Strawson recently quoted some remarks of Herbert Feigl that, mutatis 
>>> mutandis, might well apply more generally: "Philosophers are hypersensitive 
>>> .. in their repressed perplexities. A puzzle which does not resolve itself 
>>> within a given favored philosophical frame is repressed very much in the 
>>> manner in which unresolved intrapersonal conflicts are repressed. I surmise 
>>> that psychologically the first kind may be subsumed under the second. 
>>> Scholars cathect certain ideas so strongly and their outlook becomes so ego 
>>> involved that they erect elaborate barricades of defenses, merely to 
>>> protect their pet ideas from the blows (or the slower corrosive effects) of 
>>> criticism. No one can be sure that he is not doing this sort of thing in a 
>>> particular case, and I claim no exception for myself." (The Mental and the 
>>> Physical).
>>> 
>>> And Sam Harris, in his reply to Dan Dennett in their recent debate on free 
>>> will, remarks that he's ".. begun to doubt whether any smart person retains 
>>> the ability to change his mind". Of course one might well wonder how 
>>> applicable the term "smart" would be if this were indeed the case (leave 
>>> alone the question of how "free" or otherwise we are to change our minds!).
>>> 
>>> David
>> In the case of Edgar it is so screamingly obvious that his continued 
>> appearance on this list is an expression of deep personal need to be 
>> appreciated as the genius he indubitably considers himself to be. It's 
>> actually quite instructive to see how this plays out in his posts. He has 
>> revealed a few personal tidbits about his past that lend weight to this - no 
>> need to repeat them here, but his agenda is indeed ego-driven and thus 
>> anti-rational, although he has not the slightest intention of acknowledging 
>> this since people have clearly been taking exception to his arrogant 
>> personal style for most of his life. Which is almost certainly why he has 
>> landed here, where he can simply bleat-away without fear of real reprisal. 
>> All of his thinking is messy and derivative and shot-through with lacunae 
>> and selective reasoning. This boy has never truly learnt how to think. I 
>> repeat again that the only effective way to deal with bullies and thickheads 
>> is to ignore their posts. Every post by Edgar is essentially an invitation 
>> to cross swords with his out-of-control ego, desperate for attention. The 
>> continued refusal to answer questions concerning his fundamental assumptions 
>> would have him thrown out of any science academy worth the name. You can of 
>> course, get away with any shit you want over the Internet.
> 
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