Well to the idea about clathrates, is that if we cannot develop solar or fusion, we'll have to use gas hydrate to survive and burn it, rather than release it. I do keep informed and we do need to know what is occurring. What does this say about our arguments?
http://dels.nas.edu/resources/static-assets/exec-office-other/climate-change-full.pdf The political manipulations are fact, but like most people, we can do zero about it. We are as the eunuchs at the Roman orgy who can do nothing but point and gossip. I take your comment as you care not to gossip, which is understandable. -----Original Message----- From: LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sun, Mar 2, 2014 8:21 pm Subject: Re: The solar example of a town in Germany On 3 March 2014 12:42, <spudboy...@aol.com> wrote: Its not just the weather outside, its worldwide, its not matching the models I have looked at (courtesy IPCC and NASA) and they fall down. Inaccurate. Word games are played by your side, demonstrating that its been the 2nd hottest year on record, squeal!" But, Still having difficulty taking you seriously when you make comments like this, especially with references to "my side" - that already shows you're making unwarranted assumptions about my views on this matter. If we have the hottest year on record, how is that a word game, exactly? Either it's the hottest year on record or it isn't. And climate modelling isn't the issue. We all know that's very difficult, that the earth is a complex system full of feedback loops, so if you warm it up you MAY increase cloud cover and hence cool it down (if you're very lucky - alternatively, you MAY melt the methane clathrate and blow us all to kingdom come). The question is what are we going to do, given that (a) we are destroying the environment right now, in a measurable way, (b) we're going to run out of fossil fuel eventually, and (c) we may have already precipitated a climate crisis, with unpredictable consequences? why not go for clean energy? Do we have it? Do we have it ready to go? Should we do it when the great inundation is about us. Its not about a fix, a way out, its about job security for climate scientists (you need us you really need us-especially when we're appointed to government jobs), its about billionaires manipulating the system to their own benefit, and its about ideologists pursuing their religion. It's still hard to see what you're saying, or to find a point in the above worthy of the name. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
