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From: "spudboy...@aol.com" <spudboy...@aol.com>
Oh I hear you about facts, but which facts are relevent? Where's the
cause and effect, and with the climatoligists, involved at East Anglia
and U Penn, where's the hockey stick? What is your solution for
remediating the big mess you are insisting we are in? (whomever I am?).
The only facts that are relevant to determining the current rate of extinction
are determining base-line rates for extinction, and measuring the current rates
of species extinction and then comparing these rates to the average rates that
have been determined for the base-line.
You do much hand-waving and little actual investigation. You don't get to
choose the facts spudboy. And changing the subject is merely avoidance. I will
assume that you now accept that the extinction rate is 10,000 times the
background rate of extinction, seeing as you have nothing intelligent or useful
to say on the matter or to add.
In case you still have not understood, let me clarify; I am not especially
interested in reading your regurgitations of the Tea Party "libertarian"
talking points you fill your spudboy brain with.
So unless you have something to say about the what the current rate of
extinction actually is and WHY, all those biologists and other scientists who
have compiled vast datasets that reveal an exceedingly alarming rate of species
extinction currently in progress -- 10,000 times the background rate -- why
they are all wrong about it.
What is wrong with their data spudboy? Either make a point -- and please -- for
all our sake -- don't go back to comparing this centrally important piece of
compiled data, as you did, to adding up the average penis size to see if it
measures to the moon.
Say something of actual intelligence and bearing on the subject, if you are
able to. If you are going to challenge this figure of the current extinction
rate being around 10,000 times the background rate of extinction then do so
using facts and data that has a bearing on it. Otherwise you are tacitly
accepting that you are wrong about this.
Chris
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From: Chris de Morsella <cdemorse...@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Tue, Mar 11, 2014 2:41 pm
Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating
From: "spudboy...@aol.com" <spudboy...@aol.com>
>> Yah. I do view mountains of evidence, and intake what I read.
But I also evaluate which of the evidence seems most, compelling, and,
in the case of climate, appears, questionable, or exaggerated. And,
especially does not match observations. Science, is observation and
measure, not one or the other but both. When the AEC of the 1950s
claimed uranium reactors were totally safe, should we still believe on
ideological basis? What about lysenko, what about eugenics. Sometimes
science is about a search for truth, and sometimes it's about a search
for a research grant.
Scientists ARE observing and documenting the rate of extinction silly
fellow. You do not get to choose your own facts, spudboy (or whomever
you are).
Chris
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<everything-list@googlegroups.com>Sent: 11-Mar-2014 13:20:13
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From: "spudboy...@aol.com" <spudboy...@aol.com>
>> I think that if extinction rates was 10k, you would already
see silent spring round the globe. It smells of alarmism, to get people
to march to the fearless leaders tune.
You "think" a lot spudboy -- why not go review the mountains of
evidence instead and come to a conclusion that is based on evidence --
as opposed to your opinion. Perhaps you remain blissfully ignorant of
the scientific method -- test your hypothesis spudboy against something
other than what you would like to believe.
>> Its like the Marx brothers joke: who are you going to believe,
you own two eyes or me! The academics, I suspect, are doing their
hockey stick lie again, so things can roll their way with jobs for
life, lots of cash from dur fuhrer, and appointments to jobs in the
EPA, and such. Theres an inconsistency with the dire observations
predicted, and the public policy resonse of the ruling class. To me,
this is a tip off that fibs are being told and exaggerations sold. But
fear not, I am a mere particle in the sandstorm of history.
Do you consider this list to be a pulpit from where you may preach your
particular brand of Ayn Rand addled ideology?
Chris
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<everything-list@googlegroups.com>Sent: Tue, Mar 11, 2014 11:39
amSubject: RE: The situation at Fukushima appears to be
deteriorating From: everything-list@googlegroups.com
[mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR I mus admit
I've heard the extinction rate is way higher than usual - asteroid /
methane burp high. (Although if it's us or them, as I said, that's a
different story...)Liz – it is not hearsay though folks like spudboy
who like to cherry pick their “facts” tople to march fit their
ideology would like it to be just something evil greenies cooked so
Soros can grab more power – or whatever delusional script they hew to.
There is substantial, incontrovertible evidence that the extinction
rate has literally spiked through the roof.That this is so should
really make thinking people question why? What could possibly be
causing this global extinction; the answer for those whose minds are
not already made up by ideology becomes painfully clear – and stares
back at you whenever you look into the mirror.ChrisOn 11 March 2014
15:59, Chris de Morsella <cdemorse...@yahoo.com> wrote: From:
everything-list@googlegroups.com
[mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
spudboy...@aol.com Since I have been on the list longer then you I ask
are you here to enforce progressive ideology? If you're pissed off,
that's not my fault, that is your own. I was just elucidating to Liz on
her comments to me. I am aware of technology, but it has to work well
and the costs, affordable. No hurt incurred, but I refuse to hang back
and take it. I refute your extinction rate of 10000, by being aware
that this is a figure whipped up by proggies to gain more control over
the rest of us. Sometimes the theatre is on fire, but most of the time
it isn't. The question is knowing when. Alarmism is an excuse to grab
more power. Some people like freedom more. Though you may feel that I
am pissed off – or perhaps that is your desire. I am more bored than
anything if you want to know the truth. Attempting to converse with a
sloganeer is a wearisome pointless affair. I seriously doubt that you
are aware of science, engineering, math or technology – in any profound
way, beyond a casual Popular Science level and the ideological slop you
get from your Tea Party fellow travelers. You have displayed surprising
ignorance of basic statistics for example… so forgive me if I have
serious doubts that your knowledge of science or technology is more
than ankle deep.You “refute your extinction rate of 10000”, do you…
First off it isn’t mine; I did not make it up… maybe that is your way
of doing things. I am curious if your angry sounding refutation is
based on anything more than your apparently abundant supply of hot air?
Because, if it is, you have done an excellent job of completely hiding
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