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 From: meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: Graham Hancock on The Plant Teachers (Banned TED Talk)
 


On 4/15/2014 4:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:

An interesting related hypothesis is that language originated from synesthesia 
caused by psychadelics.
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>>>Telmo.
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>>I had heard that Telmo. Do you have a reference, a link?
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>Unfortunately not. I think I heard in a talk. Might be related to McKenna's 
>"stoned ape" theory, but I can't find anything...
That seems very far-fetched considering that animals already exhibit 
rudimentary language and that its selective advantage for a tool making social 
animal is huge.  I don't see how synesthesia could do anything but confound and 
confuse the development of language.

Brent

And there also is the whole evolution of our vocal chords dimension... without 
the ability to modulate and control sound that our vocal chords give us we 
would not have spoken language, beyond rudimentary grunts. Chimps lack our 
vocalization ability, the range of sounds they can produce is very limited as 
compared with our species. Spoken language at least depends on having the 
physical ability to produce a wide variety of sounds and pitches in a 
controlled manner. Chimps and other apes are pretty adept at learning symbolic 
sign (or other symbols)  language -- mastering a symbolic vocabulary of (if I 
recall correctly) around 500 symbols or so, but they cannot speak because they 
do not have vocal chords -- at least not ones that can be controlled to produce 
such a wide variety of sounds like our human vocal chords can.
Chris


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